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Yep, the FSF propaganda in their essence.
Nothing against you, it's easy to fall for it, FSF just started getting on my nerves quite some time ago, so I have to...
The FSF fits in with my ideals, not the otherway around. As an Anarchist, when I started programming, and learned about the GPL, it seemed very appealing. "A license which inhibits intellectual property laws... thats right up my ally!".
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1) I don't want an "anarchist society", not as you meant it, and especially not in the true meaning of the word. (And I am quite sure, neither would you.)
I do want an anarchist society... any day of the week. Several small scale anarchist communes have been sucessfully self-sufficient and prosperous.
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2) "Information should be free" - I agree with that in the Wikipedia sense of the word. But I don't see software as (purely) information, I consider it a result of engineering, craft, and art. As such, it's great if the engineer / craftsman / artist donates it to the public to use, no mistake, but I fail to see anything negative in someone wanting some kind of reward, be it substantial or in token.
You have to look at the FSF long term goals...
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3) While I'm not happy about big monopolists either, what this kind of argumentation keeps forgetting about is that there is a vast majority of medium, small, tiny, and one-man projects and businesses out there. Yes, I know the FSF keeps telling you about "you could provide support for payment", "you could sell documentation" or stuff like that, but that still means that I have a daytime job (support, documentation), with every hour spend coding meaning an hour not spend making a living. Besides, I prefer my software to be intuitive enough not to require support, with documentation already included.
The current business model is dying. Look at how quickly google is surpassing companies like MS who are quickly becoming dinosaurs in the feild. Software is becoming a service (e.g. web apps), not property. I'd get used to the idea.
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4) I really like that mantra about the GPL "protecting the freedom of the code". BS, if you ask me. "Freedom" includes being able to use the code in whatever context you like, including it becoming part of a greater work for which you still have the freedom to license it as you want, including commercial and public domain. The GPL does not give you this freedom, and indeed the FSF goes to great length to ensure that.
But doesn't licensing your code with a proprietary license (
arguably restrict the rights of your users?
I have to agree and disagree a bit here. What you say is basically the beleif behind the BSD licenses. I have no problem with this.
However, I don't advocate property of any kind. Obviously, possesion implies it, but not in a wierd abstract way, like intellectual property. Sure, people can license their code how they like, its their right; if somone wants to use the BSD license, or a proprietary license, go ahead.
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Take Linux drivers, for example. Hell yeah, here is all that "free" information about how to use all that hardware out there. Problem is, even if you do adapt your kernel to suit Linux driver modules, you'd have to keep playing catch-up because they keep changing the interface API for claims of "efficiency", and you would have to put your kernel under the GPL, good-bye revenue.
Which means that Linux didn't step up to the plate to make the OS landscape "free", it simply took a piece from the cake and made damn sure that you stay at the bottom and don't benefit from it.
I disagree. Everyone can benefit from it, that's the whole idea. Anyone can use the code, modify it and contribute to it for free.
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Differerent approach, same ****. The difference is that they actually managed to make the masses believe their propaganda, better yet, spreading it like a gospel. I have yet to see any discussion like this one actually started by someone not advocating "free software".
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