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Author: | embryo [ Mon May 12, 2014 4:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - AN 8086 COMPATIBLE OS WRITTEN IN PURE X86 ASM |
Prostyle44 wrote: It`s main goal is to provide an advanced User interface for old 8086 Processors. So, your target is user interface? It's a bit different area than the OS development. |
Author: | Octocontrabass [ Mon May 12, 2014 5:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - AN 8086 COMPATIBLE OS WRITTEN IN PURE X86 ASM |
Prostyle44 wrote: VGA Why is VGA the minimum required? My 8086 laptop is only compatible with CGA and the Olivetti M24.
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Author: | Prostyle44 [ Mon May 12, 2014 7:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
embryo: No, my target is not only user interface. the target of this project is to provide an operating system with an more advanced and a more user-friendly operating system for the 8086 platform than any other operating system. I will also concentrate on the other parts of the operating system. Octocontrabass: VGA is not the minimum requirement. I`m planning to add CGA and EGA support too. And after I`ve finished the operating system can you please test it. |
Author: | Bender [ Mon May 12, 2014 7:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
Quote: embryo: No, my target is not only user interface. the target of this project is to provide an operating system with an more advanced and a more user-friendly operating system for the 8086 platform than any other operating system. I will also concentrate on the other parts of the operating system. Octocontrabass: VGA is not the minimum requirement. I`m planning to add CGA and EGA support too. And after I`ve finished the operating system can you please test it. I guess what embryo means by saying that your goal is to 'provide a UI' shouldn't be the first goal. The UI part of the system is usually implemented after a stable base has been designed and developed. After all why would there exist a UI? Too provide the user a way to access devices, files, programs etc.? Those need to be implemented first. I'm not going to interfere with your roadmap. You're free to implement and focus on what you want. Octocontrabass: Still have such ancient stuff? |
Author: | Octocontrabass [ Mon May 12, 2014 8:33 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
Prostyle44 wrote: And after I`ve finished the operating system can you please test it. Once I get the laptop fixed, yes. (It needs some new capacitors, and I don't have the tools or skills to replace them.)Bender wrote: Still have such ancient stuff? But of course! How else am I going to test the "your computer is not a 386 or newer" code?
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Author: | hometue [ Tue May 13, 2014 1:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
Why not just use emulators that would emulate those systems. (Bochs?) Or are you just making sure it runs on real system. Plus, where did you get those? Don't think you can easily find em in computer shops...or can you? |
Author: | embryo [ Tue May 13, 2014 2:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
Prostyle44 wrote: the target of this project is to provide an operating system ... more user-friendly User friendliness can be elaborated a lot using graphics editor and simple program with drawing and animation capabilities. But (as already mentioned above) what is the world that you see so friendly? First of all there should be the world to display and play with. Usually this world called OS. And on top of the world we can draw our skins or screens or 3D animations or whatever we like. |
Author: | Octocontrabass [ Tue May 13, 2014 4:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
hometue wrote: Why not just use emulators that would emulate those systems. (Bochs?) Or are you just making sure it runs on real system. Emulators are useful, but they usually don't cover the weird hardware (and BIOS) quirks that show up every now and then. Besides, running on real hardware is more fun!hometue wrote: Plus, where did you get those? Don't think you can easily find em in computer shops...or can you? Most have been given to me by friends or family, but a few came from secondhand stores. I wouldn't bother with computer shops; they only sell things that work!
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Author: | onlyonemac [ Tue May 13, 2014 10:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
Is the second screenshot real, or is it a goal or something? I ask because it's vastly different from the other one, and not something which I would expect to see in 64 K of RAM. If so it looks pretty good; if not then I'll just stick to DOS (at least DOS puts the current working directory on the command line LOL). |
Author: | Prostyle44 [ Wed May 14, 2014 4:48 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm | ||
onlyonemac wrote: Is the second screenshot real, or is it a goal or something? I ask because it's vastly different from the other one, and not something which I would expect to see in 64 K of RAM. The second screenshot is real and working. I have added an image of it running on qemu. I could achieve it under 64 KB because the background image type is PCX and is pcx images are easy to display. And the icons are created by my VGA API. onlyonemac wrote: (at least DOS puts the current working directory on the command line LOL). Haha, but XtremeOS currently does not have directory support. I will add it in the next version.
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Author: | onlyonemac [ Thu May 15, 2014 4:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XTREMEOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
So your OS supports both CLI and GUI mode in under 64K? |
Author: | Prostyle44 [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: XtremeOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
sorry for my delay onlyonemac wrote: So your OS supports both CLI and GUI mode in under 64K? Kind of, as the cli is an external program and the gui loads and executes the CLI program. |
Author: | Prostyle44 [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:56 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: XtremeOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm | ||
New features for XtremeOS are:- 1) Stepper motor control 2) Dial-up modem terminal 3) Basic Dos compatibility 4) Radio transmitter circuit support ( AM only ) 5) Arduino Access more to come... Anyone who wants to join this project PM me.
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Author: | onlyonemac [ Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: XtremeOS - An 8086 compatible OS written in pure X86 asm |
This OS is going off-topic. It was supposed to be a small OS for old PCs - why are we suddenly doing Arduinos and Stepper Motors? As far as I'm concerned those only add to the memory consumption. Also, I'm waiting for a download link so I can try it out. |
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