sounds wrote:
I see posts from nullplan, pvc, AndrewAPrice, BigBuda and Octocontrabass giving their opinion (sometimes with a slightly mocking tone) that we all need to think the same as they do.
If that is your opinion of me, we are looking at a miscommunication. I never intended to force anyone to believe as I do, merely to persuade. You are free to believe whatever you want. I however am free to speak my mind.
sounds wrote:
I've provided examples of large, for-profit companies (MSI, nvidia), a small company (below [1]) and an indie developer (xorvoid.com) with an innovative new release, all still using the legacy mode that X86-S is removing.
You do realize that your opinion doesn't mean anything to the people in these examples I've provided, right?
Exactly. Which means they won't care about what a pseudonym on a half-forgotten internet message board thinks. Note that that is both of us. All of us, actually. So what is your point? Is my opinion less valid because I lack the funds of MSI or nVidia? We are merely exchanging viewpoints here, and nothing we say will have any bearing on how this whole situation shakes out. If Intel does want to go through with this, they will, no matter what rdos says. I am merely expressing approval.
sounds wrote:
Just because you, personally, don't care any more about these legacy modes doesn't make you the authority or give you the moral high ground when removing it. If intel wants to ditch their legacy compatibility, they will, regardless of your opinion or these other companies. And in response, the market is already poised to move to arm -- the reasons won't matter at that point.
I, personally, am not removing anything. I doubt anyone will move to ARM over this. The number of things that would break in a move to x86-s is far smaller than the number of things that would break in a move to ARM. Companies won't do it even just for the risk. Although I have heard of the x86 simulator Apple has made for their M1-based systems, that is apparently the bee's knees in terms of emulation.
I know that there is a market for modern legacy hardware. Hardware still capable of connecting ISA cards, and having four ISA serial ports and stuff like that, but recently manufactured, so you don't have the problems of retro hardware (like dry capacitors, rotten traces, three decades worth of dirt, &c.) So if X86-S does come, I think there will be a market for X86 classic CPUs. I doubt that companies that need the old modes actually need upgrades to their CPUs, right? They can just keep using the same model they have now forever. That way, everyone can be served. Meanwhile, us normal people get to enjoy simpler CPUs that are cheaper to make (and thus possibly cheaper to purchase).